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	<title>Comments on: Cecil County Budget Post-Mortem: Politics, Policy, Process (or the Good, Bad, and Ugly)</title>
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		<title>By: Jackie Gregory</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jackie Gregory]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Jun 2013 19:30:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Greg,
I have never said you have no right to criticize.  I do not get upset when C4L criticizes, but when the criticism is based on partial or incorrect information, then I do get a bit upset, and that is the point I made. 

Remember the tale of the &quot;Boy Who Cried Wolf?&quot;  When you criticize even when our elected officials do the right thing or on issues that your own leadership has been on the wrong side of, then you lose credibility. I have been on the front lines criticizing when necessary, and I also take the time to research and understand the issues, and make sure that when we put out information it can be documented and is based in fact.  I evaluate the facts against Constitutional, limited gov&#039;t, and free-market principles. 

We don&#039;t throw stuff out there to get an emotional response, facts be damned.  We have enough real problems to deal with, so we don&#039;t need to manufacture any.  You really need to educate yourself on the issues.  And when members of our local government take action to protect property rights and the 2nd amendment, you should encourage them.  

Attending Liberty PAC meetings, C4L meetings, and CCP meetings is absolutely worthless unless you use the education you are receiving. There is no excuse not to show up for council meetings; there are both morning and evening sessions.  You can show up at Citizen&#039;s Corner and ask questions of the council members.  What we do does take a lot of time and work.  

You should be more upset/critical about the Ted Patterson issue than me.  He is the leader of your group, not mine.  If C4L had dealt with him as they should have, then Patterson would not be an issue, but they didn&#039;t.  The leadership of C4L made excuses, covered for him, and tried to hide it from other members of their group.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greg,<br />
I have never said you have no right to criticize.  I do not get upset when C4L criticizes, but when the criticism is based on partial or incorrect information, then I do get a bit upset, and that is the point I made. </p>
<p>Remember the tale of the &#8220;Boy Who Cried Wolf?&#8221;  When you criticize even when our elected officials do the right thing or on issues that your own leadership has been on the wrong side of, then you lose credibility. I have been on the front lines criticizing when necessary, and I also take the time to research and understand the issues, and make sure that when we put out information it can be documented and is based in fact.  I evaluate the facts against Constitutional, limited gov&#8217;t, and free-market principles. </p>
<p>We don&#8217;t throw stuff out there to get an emotional response, facts be damned.  We have enough real problems to deal with, so we don&#8217;t need to manufacture any.  You really need to educate yourself on the issues.  And when members of our local government take action to protect property rights and the 2nd amendment, you should encourage them.  </p>
<p>Attending Liberty PAC meetings, C4L meetings, and CCP meetings is absolutely worthless unless you use the education you are receiving. There is no excuse not to show up for council meetings; there are both morning and evening sessions.  You can show up at Citizen&#8217;s Corner and ask questions of the council members.  What we do does take a lot of time and work.  </p>
<p>You should be more upset/critical about the Ted Patterson issue than me.  He is the leader of your group, not mine.  If C4L had dealt with him as they should have, then Patterson would not be an issue, but they didn&#8217;t.  The leadership of C4L made excuses, covered for him, and tried to hide it from other members of their group.</p>
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		<title>By: Donna Caudell</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Donna Caudell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Jun 2013 13:30:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Greg, 
To address your question about Ted Patterson: Ted is C4L&#039;s Maryland State Coordinator and is promoting Agenda 21! Don&#039;t you think that&#039;s just a little hypocritical for C4L to criticize others?  Where&#039;s the emails and robo calls demanding his resignation?  Ever hear of &quot;practice what you preach?&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greg,<br />
To address your question about Ted Patterson: Ted is C4L&#8217;s Maryland State Coordinator and is promoting Agenda 21! Don&#8217;t you think that&#8217;s just a little hypocritical for C4L to criticize others?  Where&#8217;s the emails and robo calls demanding his resignation?  Ever hear of &#8220;practice what you preach?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Donna Caudell</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Donna Caudell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Jun 2013 13:24:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Everyone has a right to criticize but unless people actually get involved, criticism is, in my opinion, the lazy approach.  Anyone can complain and criticize.  Most of us do work long hours, have kids to raise, etc. It&#039;s not an easy balance to get involved and go to meetings, etc., (ask our families and our spouses)  but we do it and we need more &quot;boots&quot; on the ground.

 As far as SB236, it was Broomell, Dunn and Mullin that wanted more property in Tier 4, the more restrictive Tier. (That was why so many people criticized Willick for his comment -- it was obvious he didn&#039;t know the history/background, yet Broomell shows up and he gives her credit?) Give me a break. 

It was the Cecil Business Leaders, the Farmers, the Patriots, the citizens and then Commissioner Moore and Hodge that didn&#039;t want more [land] in Tier 4 so we sent out letters, and the people showed up, with their tractors and packed the [county] building. 

Broomell backtracked and Dunn was silent as usual.  What ended up happening in the end was County Executive Moore submitted the least restrictive map.  I believe that was the best decision to protect property rights.  But to answer your question about SB236, yes, 2 of the commissioners did listen.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everyone has a right to criticize but unless people actually get involved, criticism is, in my opinion, the lazy approach.  Anyone can complain and criticize.  Most of us do work long hours, have kids to raise, etc. It&#8217;s not an easy balance to get involved and go to meetings, etc., (ask our families and our spouses)  but we do it and we need more &#8220;boots&#8221; on the ground.</p>
<p> As far as SB236, it was Broomell, Dunn and Mullin that wanted more property in Tier 4, the more restrictive Tier. (That was why so many people criticized Willick for his comment &#8212; it was obvious he didn&#8217;t know the history/background, yet Broomell shows up and he gives her credit?) Give me a break. </p>
<p>It was the Cecil Business Leaders, the Farmers, the Patriots, the citizens and then Commissioner Moore and Hodge that didn&#8217;t want more [land] in Tier 4 so we sent out letters, and the people showed up, with their tractors and packed the [county] building. </p>
<p>Broomell backtracked and Dunn was silent as usual.  What ended up happening in the end was County Executive Moore submitted the least restrictive map.  I believe that was the best decision to protect property rights.  But to answer your question about SB236, yes, 2 of the commissioners did listen.</p>
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